[The following post was written by regular weekend contributor Liz Wessel, R.N., M.S., Mission Director, Saint Joseph Home Health Network, Orange, California. The photo at left is by Roger Katz.]

Conversations,“Like we say at home they are food and drink for the soul, you know?”

-John O’Donohue

I feel fortunate to be living in a miraculous age where I can connect with people instantly from around the globe. Life is increasingly expansive because of access to a world of images, and information. Knowledge on any subject is just a tap-click away. Communication requires less effort with the convenience of e-mail correspondence. Seemingly, we accomplish more in less time, as volumes steadily increase.  Do you ever wonder what we are letting go of when we choose an e-mail message over picking-up the phone?

Social networks reconnect us with old friends and new friends in interesting ways. Technology invites us into a seductive realm of exotic means of communication. Yet, doesn’t it pale in comparison to being in the presence of another person? To see her face flush with color that she is unable to conceal, to glimpse the mystery of his soul in a momentary glance, to listen to her whimsical sing song  as she tells you of her plans, to grasp a hint of his thoughts as he stirs from his chair to look out the window, or the way she brushes her hair behind her ear when you say what you say. Do you ever wonder what we are letting go of when we choose virtual reality over being in the presence of someone?

I can’t help wonder if we are beginning to let go the leisurely art of conversation. I listened to a recorded interview with the late, great philosopher John O’Donohue, (Speaking of Faith, Feb. 2008.) I reflected on four questions he posed. He said, “One way, and I think this is a really lovely way, and I think it's an interesting question to ask one self is this:”

  1. “When is the last time that you had a great conversation, a conversation which wasn't just two intersecting monologues, which is what passes for conversation a lot in this culture.” John O’Donohue

I thought about what I want in my relationships with others, intimacy and a willingness to drop pretenses of social expectations to descend into a soulful place. This past week I attended an annual leadership retreat day.  During the lunch hour, a colleague and I ventured into the quiet of the Sister’s chapel. There we spoke in earnest about what was real for us. I want to share my truth without fear of judgment. Do you ever wonder what friend is longing for you to show yourself?

  1. “When was the last a great conversation, in which you over heard yourself saying things that you never knew you knew.” John O’Donohue

It has been a while, perhaps too long. Sometimes my truth just spills out of me. I can see why the word naked often accompanies truth. I can feel so exposed, vulnerable, and hope for the gift of acceptance.

In my younger days if my feelings were hurt, not knowing what else to do, I could shut my heart and walk away. Now, I realize that I can no longer close off my heart to anyone. At least not all the way or for long. A window has opened that was long shut. I live in poignant awareness of life’s ever changing movement. I experience fullness amidst feelings of emptiness. In faith, I experience change as a continual turning toward the Divine. Do you ever listen in stillness to that inner voice, which is always present to guide us?

  1. “That you heard yourself receiving from somebody words that absolutely found places within you that you thought you had lost and a sense of an event of a conversation that brought the two of you on to a different plane.” John O’Donohue

I have a friend that I have known for years. On occasion, our paths cross. Although she is from India, and of a different culture and faith, we connect on a lovely spiritual plane. When she speaks, wisdom flows. Truly, I have felt as though God was speaking to me through her. There have been times when I am troubled and I do not even share my concern. Yet, her presence knows and her words like honey soothing my ache. Do you ever wonder about that place in you that longs for discovery?

  1. “Fourthly, a conversation that continued to sing in your mind for weeks afterward, you know?  I've had some of them recently, and it's just absolutely amazing, like, as we would say at home, they are food and drink for the soul, you know?”  John O’Donohue

Namastegreeting Oh, it is a lovely sensation to connect in a joyful way with another human being. What comes to mind is the beloved Sanskrit greeting of namaste. When greeting another person in "namaste" hands are placed in a prayerful gesture in front of the chest while bowing slightly with politeness. For the greeting means, "I honor the place in you in which the entire Universe dwells, I honor the place in you which is of Love, of Integrity, of Wisdom and of Peace. When you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, we are One."  When in this place I have experienced a light sense of giddiness, laughter and at times tears of compassion. Do you ever just love the questions themselves

~Liz Wessel

8 responses to “Days 72-73 The Art of Conversation”

  1. Sue Staley Avatar
    Sue Staley

    I am not one for technology. I know my life is in the middle of technology. I see people on the days I work that depend on technology to save their loved ones, but that brings upon them so much suffering, body, mind and soul. Letting go was so much easier. The conversation of what was happening to their loved one was between humans, not techniques. Hope was for a peaceful death, not tormented by a machine put on your face to force air into the lungs.It is a little hard to hear someone over the forces of a machine. Facebook is a way to connect and stay nonpersonal. If I spent the time making sure I visit a friend, it would be much more meaningful to me. I only have a handful of friends. I have many aquantices. But God is the one who steers me where I need to be and go.

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  2. Erie Chapman Avatar
    Erie Chapman

    What a great idea to focus on conversations, Liz. As we know, so much turns on the quality of our interactions.

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  3. Julie Laverdiere Avatar

    I just had a very nice conversation with a young man who went to school with my daughter in grade school. I was rushing back to my car, and he happened to say, “Hello Mrs. Laverdiere” It made me stop, walk over, and have a 10 min conversation with a very nice young man. I can’t do that on the internet!

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  4. Maureen McDermott Avatar
    Maureen McDermott

    Once again Liz, you remind me of what is important in life. Yesterday I had an experience that revealed the beauty of conversation. An elderly passenger left his keys on the seat of the train. Two young women who boarded the train at the station when the man alighted noticed that there were keys on the seat. As I was nearing my destination and had the time I collected the keys and jumped off the train, running in pursuit of the man. He disappeared into the crowd. I met a young woman who works for City Rail. I told her the story, she advised me to take the keys to lost property and indicated where I needed to go. On my return when I was reentering the platform I thanked the lady and we talked about the man. on my return to the platform, there was the man waiting for another train! (He had gone downstairs, not realising that he only had to cross the platform for the train he required.) He was not aware that his keys were missing. I took him to the woman who stopped everything she was doing. After talking to us she then took the man upstairs to be given his keys. Every time I encountered her, I was aware of her smiling face, the kindness in her eyes and her genuine concern for the passenger. None of that could have happened with out the human touch.
    May we find moments in each day to reflect and ask ourselves, who is important and how am I in relationship with those people? What could I do to make these relationships more meaningful?

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  5. Suan Geh Avatar
    Suan Geh

    “Conversation is food and drink for the soul”. The little children now learn sign language so that they can communicate with their mother better for their physical needs etc. Conversation is communication-to commune with one another. In the health care profession we are always communicating with the patients and health care professionals. At home we communicate with our loved ones, and when we have our time with the Lord we commune with the Lord in words and sometimes in song. Lately I had the urgency to talk to the nurse on call at the early hours of the morning as I was in a lot of pain. She told me that I was on an emergency line. I did not care what line I was on, all I cared was I was glad that someone on the other end was listening to me expressing my discomfort and that I needed help! My needs were met when I was finally able to see the MD.

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  6. ~liz Wessel Avatar

    Thank you Sue, Erie, Julie, Sr. Maureen, and Suan for taking time to visit and offer these inspiring thoughts. Sue you are a caregiver who impacts the lives of others in profoundly meaningful ways. Sr. Maureen, I loved the way you spontaneously took action to help that man and how others responded in kind. Julie, what a great illustration of seizing the moment, making the split second choice to stop for a few extra minutes and discovering it was so worthwhile. Suan, your insights are poetic and your personal experience with pain poignant.
    Perhaps that is the message here, seizing the moment and not missing the opportunity for communion. For as Erie shared so much turns on the quality of our interactions.

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  7. Diane Barrows Avatar
    Diane Barrows

    Last evening I had a conversation with a friend who is a mother of a severely physically challenged 6 year old girl named Ashley. This mom brings me to a place of awe, and I have often thought, no one else could care for this child the way she does. We had one of those conversations that will keep me wondering and pondering. The mother related a story about how, not too long ago, Ashley had engaged a man in conversation, and after exchanging the usual 6 year old questions, name, age etc. Ashley asked him if he had any children. When he said no, Ashley very gently asked, “are you lonely?”.
    Ashley’s mom shared how this scenario has been repeated often, with different topics, but always ending with questions that her mom is concerned might be too personal or raw for a complete stranger. I have witnessed these interactions too.
    Now, Ashley has flaming red hair and huge azure sky blue eyes. She is striking. Although in a wheel chair she commands attention. She is magnetic and easily engages both children and adults in conversation. She can only speak in a whisper, drawing you down close to her beautiful face, but when she speaks – she goes directly to the soul of the person she is talking to.
    Ashley’s mom wants to teach Ashley to ask less intense and piercing questions – so not to offend other.
    My response to Ashley’s mom was this. Please don’t try to change Ashley’s conversations into what could become trite PC statements. Rather let this gift of knowing and “to the heart of the matter” conversing bloom. I told her how amazing it would be if adults could talk to one another like Ashley – with a deep empathy and knowing about what the other person’s emotional state is, without fear of saying something wrong, and with pure childlike innocense and curiosity, and by doing so, help people find places in themselves that they thought they had lost, or make visible to them their own souls.
    This little one is an amazing expression of God’s love and, I think, a pure pathway through which God is trying to converse with us. What a conversation we could have! Thank you Ashley.

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  8. Marily Paco Tronco Avatar
    Marily Paco Tronco

    We are blessed to have the faculty to communicate and understand one another, be it verbal or written words, through body language, or just our mere presence even in silence… our expressions to connect is always welcome. Those we remember and treasure deeply are the most truthful, kind, honest, and loving interactions.
    As we continue to do our sacred work, we are equipped to do nothing less, may it always be acceptable and meaningful to the person we serve as well as to ourselves.
    Last Saturday was time spent with my close relatives and friends it was fun and refreshing too. A break from my daily routine brought excitement and joyful reunion. Just “hanging out” in each others’ presence, singing, sharing a meal as we celebrate multiple birthdays. I could say we shared that moment meaningfully. And I am thankful

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